どんぐりシステムについて話しましょう ★37

**ななしさん** 警備員[Lv.3(前8)][苗警] · 2024/05/04(土) 12:00:21.37

どんぐりシステム
https://donguri.5ch.net/

導入板
http://dongurirank.starfree.jp/acorn.html

スレ毎に設定可能な板
http://dongurirank.starfree.jp/vipq2.html
http://dongurirank.starfree.jp/vipq2_idclass.html

!extend コマンド生成フォーム
http://dongurirank.starfree.jp/extend.html

レベルテーブル
http://dongurirank.starfree.jp/level.html

どんぐり大砲ログ検索
http://dongurirank.starfree.jp/cannonlogs.html

まとめ（有志作成）
https://nanjya.net/donguri/

※前スレ
どんぐりシステムについて話しましょう ★36
https://kes.5ch.net/test/read.cgi/donguri/1714788245/

**ななしさん** 警備員[Lv.1][新初] · 2024/05/12(日) 16:00:17.38

>>920
狙ってもなれないが荒らしハンターに狙われたらなれるぞ
利用者を消し去りたいならそれでも良いけど

**ななしさん** 警備員[Lv.19(前12)][苗] · 2024/05/12(日) 16:01:57.59

>>922
被は狙われても余程じゃないとならん
俺のいたスレで唯一なった奴は異常な書き込み繰り返してた奴だけだからそういう奴は長時間消えてくれると助かるんだけどなあ

**ななしさん** 警備員[Lv.4][新苗] · 2024/05/12(日) 16:03:18.40

>>921
I totally agree.

**ななしさん** 警備員[Lv.1(前10)][苗警] · 2024/05/12(日) 16:06:51.02

荒らしハンター4660018bが乱射中

2024/05/12(日) 16:10:13.60

>>921
The first recourse of action against indiscriminate troll hunters that use scripts is to enforce -25% donguri points.
If scripting continues after the first action, then we will discuss what to do in the second course of action.
A second recourse of action could mean temporary suspension of access to the acorn cannon.
We are not yet at that point.

**ななしさん** 警備員[Lv.1][新初] · 2024/05/12(日) 16:11:09.94

>>624
/sec2ch/1625875514/ にはレス番 179 までしかないようだが

**ななしさん** 警備員[Lv.2][新初警] · 2024/05/12(日) 16:11:44.22

>>561
これでよくね
大砲じゃ荒らしハンターにペナルティ与えられない

**ななしさん** 警備員[Lv.6][N武][N防][苗警] · 2024/05/12(日) 16:11:45.22

>>926
Understood.

2024/05/12(日) 16:12:48.26

I am applying for access to Twilio in order to setup a system to send my phone a text message every hour with the current "期".
I will check it each hour and if the "期" has not changed, then that means there is an urgent problem with the Donguri System.

2024/05/12(日) 16:15:06.17

Since the cannon logs are always changing, if you want to report an arashi hunter to me, then please use the https://archive.is system to take a snapshot of the cannon logs page: https://donguri.5ch.net/cannonlogs
Share the archive.is link with me that shows the Arashi Hunter, and I can take action at that point if I deem it to be an actionable offense.

**ななしさん** 警備員[Lv.31(前23)][苗] · 2024/05/12(日) 16:17:06.92

どんキャさんは、荒らしハンターに対して正義ハンターとのバトルで対抗させてゲーム化させたいのかな
荒らしハンターに化けたスクリプト荒らしと遊ぶつもりはないなｗ

**ななしさん** 警備員[Lv.11][苗] · 2024/05/12(日) 16:17:17.19

>>926
Will we be able to use Acorns to purchase real world items in the future?
For example, souvenirs from Hokkaido.

**ななしさん** 警備員[Lv.1][新苗警] · 2024/05/12(日) 16:17:57.20

Script reports often appear in the following threads. According to reports, many slow scripts cannot be detected by vandalism alerts.　Recently, I've been relying on the reports to shoot more and more scripts. However, in such cases, the acorn system is often not introduced in the thread in the first place, or the cannon is prohibited. Trolls are targeting such threads. It's frustrating to watch the script steadily grow up to break through the regulatory levels of other threads. I would like to see a fundamental tightening of penalties.

下記のスレッドにスクリプト報告がよく上がる。報告によれば、荒らし警報で検知できない低速スクリプトが多い。　最近はその報告を頼りにスクリプトを撃ちに行くことが増えた。しかしながら、このような場合はそのスレッドにそもそもどんぐりシステムが導入されていなかったり大砲禁止なことも多い。そのようなスレッドを荒らしは狙っている。スクリプトが他のスレッドの規制レベル突破のために着々と育成されていくのを見過ごすしかなく歯がゆい思いがする。根本的なペナルティの厳格化を望む。

スクリプトに遭った板・スレの報告スレ
https://agree.5ch.net/test/read.cgi/operate/1714566159/
スクリプトに遭った板・スレの報告スレ 16
https://agree.5ch.net/test/read.cgi/operate/1714627500/

翻訳機能使ってるので不自然な英語は失礼

**ななしさん** 警備員[Lv.24][苗] · 2024/05/12(日) 16:18:16.07

狐のどんぐりレベル0から上がらなくて何処にも書き込めんぞ

**ななしさん** 警備員[Lv.1(前26)][苗告] · 2024/05/12(日) 16:18:47.80

https://kes.5ch.net/test/read.cgi/donguri/1714788245/188
188：どんぐりキャノン ★ ハンター[Lv.27(前186)][木]：2024/05/09(木) 02:33:16.66 ID:CAP_USER
On the cannonlog page (), we will now be changing the ID of users every 期.
This will allow hunters, and defenders, to easily avoid detection over long periods of time.
With this change, I have decided that we will also be punishing hunters that use scripts to throw cannon balls.

I am giving a 24 hour warning to hunters that use scripts that maliciously target every post.

After 24 hours, hunters that continue to use scripts to maliciously target indiscriminately will have 25% of their Donguri removed.
After 48 hours, I will re-evaluate who is using scripts to maliciously target indiscriminately, and we will adjust the punishment accordingly.

>>926
well…
How long are you going to say "not yet"?
This is what I have been saying since the very beginning of this thread.
Reinstate the UPLIFT suspension.

And congratulations on successfully disabling the cannon logs by switching IDs.
It's quite a thrill to talk to a con man.

警備員[Lv.2][苗警] · 2024/05/12(日) 16:19:12.19

>>930
あなただけにメッセージ送るの？
一人で対応は変わらないのか

**ななしさん** 警備員[Lv.1][新初告] · 2024/05/12(日) 16:20:08.20

>>931
>>561

Acorn Cannon.
Please read this.

**ななしさん** 警備員[Lv.2][新初] · 2024/05/12(日) 16:21:37.46

>>926
Even this every day? (Acts of 37dd90b4)
If so, wouldn't it be the same as not doing anything?
Can you please stop saying that you will deal with troll hunters?
Will you proudly say that you will leave the troll hunters alone?

If you say that, everyone will disappear.
I'm also canceling UPLIFT.

https://i.imgur.com/t6JHq07.jpeg
https://i.imgur.com/y0uzNIq.jpeg

**ななしさん** 警備員[Lv.1][新初] · 2024/05/12(日) 16:24:05.50

結局「アラシ」を制圧しようとしている側も「アラシ」なんですよ
「自動アラシ」は駄目で「手動アラシは良い」って言葉は「アイツのアラシ方」は駄目だが「俺のアラシ方」はセーフだって事でしょ？
アラシが主役でなくなる時は誰も書かなくなった時でしか無いと思う

残念ながら平和を望むどんぐりを助ける気のいいドジョウが出てくるのは童謡の中だけなんだね😅

**ななしさん** 警備員[Lv.2][新苗警] · 2024/05/12(日) 16:25:40.66

>>931
I understood. We will do so.

2024/05/12(日) 16:27:19.21

>>933
Purchasing souvenirs from Hokkaido seems unlikely, but maybe we could someday make a way to purchase gift cards using Donguri.

However, there are a few big issues regarding selling gift cards for donguri:
1. The donguri economy would need to be balanced very carefully.
-> I dont want to be bankrupted because I sent too many gift cards.
2. We need to be careful not to help people engage in money laundering.
-> Bad people sometimes use gift cards to money launder.
-> It is a real concern.
-> I do not want to engage in any illegal activity.
-> I do not want to help others engage in illegal activity.
I will need to talk with a lawyer before we could let people purchase gift cards with donguri.

That said, we will soon allow the purchase of uplift tokens using donguri.
Maybe in a week? I need to refresh my knowledge of the Stripe payment API and SDK first.

>>934
Not all boards have enabled BBS_ACORN yet. The boards that have not enabled it cannot be protected by Hunters.
Is there a thread that people can report slow scripts to?
If there was a centralized thread with reports of slow scripts, then hunters can team up and defeat the slow scripts.

**ななしさん** 警備員[Lv.31(前23)][苗] · 2024/05/12(日) 16:28:00.98

>>940
双方がスクリプトで荒らしてる場合はそうかもな
スクリプトによる高速埋め立て行為を防げれば良しとしようぜ

**ななしさん** 警備員[Lv.3(前15)][苗警] · 2024/05/12(日) 16:32:53.98

>>942
ハンターによって撃ってスクリプトを撲滅は無理だ。低速スクリプトが書き込めなくなる仕組みを作るのは難しいのですか？
>>854
に書きましたが、スクリプトの量が何百といるしクッキーも次々作られるから弾も足りないし長い時間撃ち続けるのは疲れてハンターは諦めます。
スクリプトは1つのスレッド、掲示板の話ではなく多数の掲示板のスレッドで同時に大量に書き込まれているのです。

It is impossible to eradicate scripts by shooting them with hunters. Is it difficult to create a system that prevents slow scripts from being written?
>>854
As I wrote in , there are hundreds of scripts and cookies are being created one after another, so there aren't enough bullets, and hunters get tired of shooting for a long time and give up.
Scripts are not written in one thread or bulletin board, but in large numbers on many bulletin board threads at the same time.

**ななしさん** 警備員[Lv.2][新初] · 2024/05/12(日) 16:34:34.07

Hokkaido？....Thats strange🤔

**ななしさん** 警備員[Lv.31(前23)][苗] · 2024/05/12(日) 16:34:43.89

>>942
UPLIFTのサイトでクレジットカード等で購入するUPLIFTと、donguriを使ったアップリフトトークンとは機能に違いがあるのですか？
Is there any difference in functionality between UPLIFT, which is purchased on the UPLIFT website with a credit card, etc., and UPLIFT tokens using donguri?

**ななしさん** 警備員[Lv.2][新苗] · 2024/05/12(日) 16:35:37.96

>>942
As far as I know, there doesn't seem to be a centralized thread reporting slow scripts yet. It seems that the thread I wrote in the previous thread or the thread below plays that role as an alternative. However, my understanding of the system is still shallow, so I would like to make an effort to understand and disseminate the system so that users can keep up with the ever-changing specifications.

Thank you for listening to me.

【どんぐり大砲】依頼スレ ★2
https://kes.5ch.net/test/read.cgi/donguri/1714563590/

**ななしさん** ハンター[Lv.329][SSR防][木] · 2024/05/12(日) 16:36:35.67

多くのハンターは>>934のスレッドを参考に破壊ロボットの行動を見ています
URLが表に出ると荒らされるのであまり宣伝はしていない様子ですが

警備員[Lv.4][新初] · 2024/05/12(日) 16:39:20.21

>>942
Even slow scripts can be teamed up to take them down (lol).
How are we supposed to beat them when they multiply infinitely? Don't be such a sleazeball now when you've been beaten up so many times.
It has to be a system that doesn't allow people to enter the entrance, there's nothing you can do with this man left to his own fucking devices.
Don't all the management team understand that? You're the ultimate in incompetence.

**ななしさん** 警備員[Lv.31(前23)][苗] · 2024/05/12(日) 16:39:33.30

低速スクリプトに関しては、その掲示板に常駐する住人のハンターの砲撃に期待するしかないのが現状
As for the low-speed scripts, we can only hope for a bombardment of hunters who reside on that board.

**ななしさん** 警備員[Lv.9][苗] · 2024/05/12(日) 16:39:57.65

見た感じ、方向性は完全に見失ってそうだな
メールアドレスの登録もスクリプトを弾くものではなく
あくまでもクソゲーに参加させるものでしかなさそうだし
何よりもこのクソゲーを収益の柱にしようとてて怖い

色々と残念過ぎてUPLIFTの自動更新止めるか悩んでる

警備員[Lv.4][新苗] · 2024/05/12(日) 16:43:37.91

The users who believed that the acorn system would help prevent vandalism and charged for it were fools.
The management's goal was to collect money by encouraging people to participate in a shitty game.

2024/05/12(日) 16:43:54.89

>>946
One uplift token will be equivalent to 1 month of uplift from uplift.5ch.net

**ななしさん** 警備員[Lv.31(前23)][苗] · 2024/05/12(日) 16:44:39.89

>>942
どんぐりの商品券化や現金化はやめておいた方がいいかも
Maybe you shouldn't convert acorns into gift certificates or cash.

**ななしさん** 警備員[Lv.7][N武][N防][苗] · 2024/05/12(日) 16:44:51.35

>>942
Even if I wanted to report where the low-speed scripts appear, it is difficult to post the URL because of the 余所でやってください restrictions without CAP or UPLIFT.
This was not the case until a few days ago.
Something is wrong.

**ななしさん** 警備員[Lv.3][新苗] · 2024/05/12(日) 16:47:03.45

>>953
If you don't respond even if I say this
Please declare that you will no longer deal with troll hunters.

Hundreds of shots are fired every day.

That's what I'm complaining about

But you won't respond, right?
If that's the case, I'll never do it again.

Do you want to stop the hunter function for hunter ID37dd90b4 now?
Or
Will we lose the UPLIFT contracts of hundreds of users and several residents?
Please choose which one
If you ignore me, I'll take action if you don't respond.

Running away every time
You are more annoying than the script.

**ななしさん** 警備員[Lv.3][新初] · 2024/05/12(日) 16:50:02.79

>>953
By the way, how about making the hunter ID in the scuffle log random as well?
I'm curious because the original hunter ID is displayed over there.

2024/05/12(日) 16:51:40.65

>>954
I agree. It is not something I want to do, but it is theoretically possible.
The risk and liability is very high. I think it is unwise.

**ななしさん** 警備員[Lv.31(前23)][苗] · 2024/05/12(日) 16:53:01.02

>>953
UPLIFTを購入してハンターにならないとuplift tokenはなかなか増えないので、結局は従来の購入方法でUPLIFTを購入してuplift tokenを増やし、UPLIFTの有効期間を延長できる形になるわけですね？
Since UPLIFT tokens do not increase easily unless you purchase UPLIFT and become a hunter, you end up being able to purchase UPLIFT in the traditional way to increase your UPLIFT tokens and extend the validity period of your UPLIFT?

2024/05/12(日) 16:53:53.51

>>957
Thats an oversight. I will change it tomorrow.
It is too late tonight to make a change to Donguri Base.

**ななしさん** 警備員[Lv.23(前12)][苗] · 2024/05/12(日) 16:54:25.63

I think there will be more indiscriminate hunters as more acorns are used and the value of acorns increases.
I think UPLIFT should be divided into two plans, one that can be bought with tokens and a higher plan that can only be bought with cash.
Like UPLIFT Basic and UPLIFT Prime.

**ななしさん** 警備員[Lv.3][新初] · 2024/05/12(日) 16:54:37.90

>>960
OK

**ななしさん** 警備員[Lv.2][新初] · 2024/05/12(日) 16:54:53.20

どんぐりの金券化って、荒らしハンター量産を運営側が促進してどうするんだよ
Xがインプレッションを収益化してインプレ乞食量産した以上に大惨事になる未来しか見えない

2024/05/12(日) 16:55:59.85

>>959
When the item marketplace goes live, then even the 警備員 accounts can easily earn Donguri from trading.
If you trade enough, eventually you can trade for an Uplift Token.
Its a bit difficult to explain, but you will understand after the system is launched.

2024/05/12(日) 16:58:19.45

UpliftチームのGmail認証の開発は進んでいるか？？これが完成しないとモバイルユーザーがどんぐりシステムに参加できないしストレスを抱える一方だぞ

**ななしさん** 警備員[Lv.3][新初] · 2024/05/12(日) 16:58:20.27

やはりこの新店舗も暖簾に腕押しでしか無かったかw

2024/05/12(日) 16:58:40.82

>>961
Uplift Tokens will be purchased with cash at the same rate as normal uplift.
After paying with cash, you will have an uplift token inside your donguri account.

You will be able to trade, gift, or redeem the uplift token.
If you redeem it, you will get 1 month of uplift.
If you trade it, maybe someone will give you Donguri, or a weapon/armor, or keys/wood, etc for it.
If you like someone very much, maybe you can gift it to them.

警備員[Lv.3][新苗] · 2024/05/12(日) 16:59:16.78

>>960
What time is it in your location?

**ななしさん** 警備員[Lv.3][新苗] · 2024/05/12(日) 17:00:00.31

>>967
Does ignoring (>>939 and >>956) mean leaving troll hunter (37dd90b4) alone?
If that's the case, I'll cancel the UPLIFT contract.

Can you clarify? (>>939)

2024/05/12(日) 17:00:02.51

>>965
I asked my colleague to set that up, however he is very slow.
Maybe I set it up by myself.

2024/05/12(日) 17:01:28.33

>>968
I operate in JST [UTC+9].
5-6pm on Sunday is normally a very active time on 5ch.
I do not want to make changes to the Donguri system during very active times, unless there is an emergency.

**ななしさん** 警備員[Lv.7(前13)][苗] · 2024/05/12(日) 17:02:27.82

>>967
Hello! How are you doing?

By the way, is it possible to make the ‘結果ログ’ of the ‘大乱闘ログ’ display the same ID as the ‘大砲ログ’?
Can't the hunter's ID change from period to period and the ID of the person shot be anonymous?

We can change our names but not our IDs, so the same hunters follow us all the time, win or lose, the ‘大乱闘’ starts again and again, the retaliation continues and never ends...

**ななしさん** 警備員[Lv.5][新苗] · 2024/05/12(日) 17:02:48.37

次スレ立て、チャレンジしてみる

**ななしさん** 警備員[Lv.1][新初] · 2024/05/12(日) 17:02:50.75

そらUPLIFTの担当は金にならんことをやるのはしぶるだろうな

2024/05/12(日) 17:03:12.11

>>969
Where is the proof that that user is scripting and shooting people indiscriminately?

2024/05/12(日) 17:04:37.61

>>972
Yes, I previously said that is an oversight (>>960). I will fix it tomorrow.

**ななしさん** 警備員[Lv.3][新苗] · 2024/05/12(日) 17:06:30.45

>>975
As shown in the image of >>939, hundreds of rounds are fired every day.
Every day from 8am to 11pm

**ななしさん** 警備員[Lv.4][新初] · 2024/05/12(日) 17:07:27.26

どんキャ、イライラしてる？

2024/05/12(日) 17:08:42.66

>>977
Next time he does it, can you capture the cannonlogs page (https://donguri.5ch.net/cannonlogs) using https://archive.is service?
Send me the link and I will investigate.
It is hard to discern from a simple screenshot whether they are a script or not.

2024/05/12(日) 17:09:48.84

>>978
I am not irritated.
I enjoy talking with everybody and trying to find solutions that most people can find acceptable.

**ななしさん** 警備員[Lv.31(前23)][苗] · 2024/05/12(日) 17:10:10.61

>>958
賢明なるご判断を期待してます
I look forward to your wise judgment.
>>964
それはつまりUPLIFTのID（メールアドレス）を持たない警備員でもUPLIFTユーザーになれるってことですか？
それと従来のUPLIFTとUplift Tokenで交換して得たUPLIFTは使える機能は同じでしょうか？
Does that mean that a security guard without an UPLIFT ID (email address) can be a UPLIFT user?
Also, are the functions of UPLIFT exchanged with UPLIFT Token the same as those of conventional UPLIFT?

**ななしさん** 警備員[Lv.5][新苗] · 2024/05/12(日) 17:10:41.75

>>980
どんぐりキャノンさんへ

敢えて日本語で書きます。
uplift購入者とどんぐりIDとの連携において、上限を設定してほしいです。
スクリプト(書込み荒らしやスレ立て乱立荒らしを含む)はuplift購入者のハンターです。そして多くのIPとIDを持っている可能性があります。
このスクリプトに対抗するためにはアカウント制限をする必要があります。
そして乱射するハンターへも制限を与える必要があると思います。あきらかに多くのレスに対して大砲を撃つハンターは荒らしスクリプトと変わりありません。
よろしくお願いします。

**ななしさん** 警備員[Lv.5][新苗] · 2024/05/12(日) 17:10:56.42

>>975
He confesses to using scripts

>>104

**973** ハンター[Lv.321][木] · 2024/05/12(日) 17:11:45.78

駄目だったわ、UPLIFT連投規制になってしまった
誰か頼む

**ななしさん** 警備員[Lv.5][新苗] · 2024/05/12(日) 17:11:59.27

どんぐりキャノンさんへ伝わることを切に、切に願っております。、

**ななしさん** 警備員[Lv.4(前15)][苗] · 2024/05/12(日) 17:12:58.26

>>975
>>104
104に貼られたこの画像の通り自分でスクリプトを組んで大砲を撃っていると自白しているのだが。。

As you can see in this image posted on 104, he confesses to writing the script himself and firing the cannons. .

**ななしさん** 警備員[Lv.5][新苗] · 2024/05/12(日) 17:13:07.19

>>984
立ててみる

**ななしさん** 警備員[Lv.5][新苗] · 2024/05/12(日) 17:14:47.10

ダメだった(´・ω・`)

**ななしさん** 警備員[Lv.5][新苗] · 2024/05/12(日) 17:15:07.58

立てようとしたら一発で🐙付いたわ

**ななしさん** 警備員[Lv.12][苗] · 2024/05/12(日) 17:15:22.70

次スレいってみる

**ななしさん** 警備員[Lv.3(前22)][苗] · 2024/05/12(日) 17:16:40.60

どんぐりシステムについて話しましょう ★38
tps://kes.5ch.net/test/read.cgi/donguri/1715501753/

2024/05/12(日) 17:16:59.98

>>981
> Does that mean that a security guard without an UPLIFT ID (email address) can be a UPLIFT user?
Yes.
> Also, are the functions of UPLIFT exchanged with UPLIFT Token the same as those of conventional UPLIFT?
Yes.

>>986
The date of his "admission" post is: 2024/05/01.
That is from before I issued the warning.

**ななしさん** 警備員[Lv.4(前15)][苗] · 2024/05/12(日) 17:17:23.98

>>980
>>895

いくつもクッキーを使い分けて大砲を無効化している輩への対処は考えていますか？
ID:vxjE6tJ20は何度撃たれても他のクッキーで復活してくる
これでは大砲の意味がないのでは？

Are you thinking about dealing with people who use multiple cookies to disable cannons?
No matter how many times ID:vxjE6tJ20 is shot, it will come back with another cookie.
Doesn't this mean there's no point in using a cannon?

**ななしさん** 警備員[Lv.12][苗] · 2024/05/12(日) 17:17:42.61

>>991
おつおつ
🐙付いてダメだったわ

警備員[Lv.3][新初] · 2024/05/12(日) 17:17:56.29

テスト

2024/05/12(日) 17:18:01.89

I am going to celebrate Mothers Day now.
I will be back later.
Im sorry for the service being disrupted earlier.
I will make new systems to prevent that from happening again.

**ななしさん** 警備員[Lv.4][新苗] · 2024/05/12(日) 17:18:41.15

>>979
Don't you keep past cannon logs?
There are a lot of logs with his ID in there, so if you search by ID, it will be obvious.

in addition,
The random ID in the log made it difficult to track him down?
What would you do if you could change your name?

2024/05/12(日) 17:18:53.43

>>993
I will think about how to address this.

**ななしさん** 警備員[Lv.4(前15)][苗] · 2024/05/12(日) 17:19:03.54

だめだ
肝心なところは何一つ進んでない

**ななしさん** 警備員[Lv.4(前15)][苗] · 2024/05/12(日) 17:20:39.57

>>998
お願いします。

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