To: Donguri system team (CAP_USER)

**ななしさん** · 2024/03/31(日) 17:58:21.56

英語で書きますね

The previous two threads got dumped by script posts, so I created a new thread.

Problems on 5chan:

(from most severe to least severe)
1. !! SCRIPT POSTS !!
2. too many under-populated boards
3. lack of means to communicate with the management team
4. bad web UI on PC

Ways to solve:

1. Install a CAPTCHA-like system.
A successful example of this method is a BBS called "edge" (bbs.eddibb.cc/liveedge/).
When first posting to a thread on edge, you will be given a 6 digit code and prompted to access an auth page (https://bbs.eddibb.cc/auth-code) .
The server will give you an access token after you access the page with the same IP address, enter the code, solve reCAPTCHA and Cloudflare Turnstile.
You can post to edge by just pasting the same access token.

Your Donguri system sounds over-complicated. The above simple system will easily solve the problem without risking to cause new problems, such as Arashis being given hunter privileges.

2. Simply merge unpopular boards. Ask the users what boards to merge.

3. Ideally, someone in the management team should be checking the threads on the management info board at least once a week.
Means of communication is also needed to solve problem 2.

4. The Web UI for PC should be able to show reply posts on hover and it should also show the number of posts made by each ID. The lack of these simple features makes the PC Web UI completely unusable. You can just simply rollback to the previous UI to solve this problem, but it's not that severe because we can always use dedicated browsers or mobile Web UI.

5chan has a big population and is well-known to the public, and these are the most important features of a BBS. If 5chan fails, it is very difficult to rebuild an alternative. Please try your best to save 5chan and don't let other BBS like talk.jp takeover this position.

**ななしさん** · 2024/03/31(日) 18:15:31.58

Note: This method like posts from IPv6 users are unintentionally prohibited.
To prevent this, you need to change to a method that authenticates before writing, or allow authentication from different IP addresses.

**ななしさん** · 2024/03/31(日) 18:18:45.07

You should implement Captcha in the be.5ch.net registration form or set up a managed challenge with Cloudflare WAF for the entire be.5ch.net. Then you can easily ban bots by simply setting "BBS_BE_ID=1" on a board that is being indiscriminately trolled by bots.
However, in order to prevent confusion among users, the BBS must be notified when setting it.
It is more easy and completey way than >>1 and it is supported by all dedicated browsers.

**ななしさん** · 2024/03/31(日) 18:23:32.64

bbs.eddibb.cc, like Talk.jp, is infringing on 5ch's position.
The system may be excellent, but the fact is that residents are leaving 5ch due to excessive guidance to bbs.eddibb.cc.

**ななしさん** · 2024/03/31(日) 18:26:23.95

>>4
I think so too.

**ななしさん** · 2024/03/31(日) 18:30:31.61

I think it is necessary to post the forum URLs of shelters other than 5ch when we are being vandalized.
However, as for posting on bbs.eddibb.cc and Talk, there are far too many. It is as if it is the BOT itself.
You can check that by looking at the KAKOLOG listings on なんでも実況(ガリレオ).

**ななしさん** · 2024/03/31(日) 18:36:31.38

The Acorn Board and the Operational Information Board were damaged by the bot. The situation is serious. You need to deal with it as soon as possible.

**ななしさん** · 2024/03/31(日) 18:48:21.63

>>6
The images are all threads leading to bbs.eddibb, which promotes the outflow of residents from 5ch.
The guys at bbs.eddibb are privately run and are not affiliated with 5ch and are trying to rob the residents.
This is an outrage, it is terrorism, and it is abnormal.
We need regulations similar to those for script vandalism.
Of course, if there is a board on 5ch where there are no trolls, you should evacuate there.
However, it is wrong to direct people to evacuate to external sites

https://i.imgur.com/1U6F0Kv.jpeg

**ななしさん** · 2024/03/31(日) 18:58:47.82

>>8
So why did you stop regulating trolls who were paying users?
Because you didn't want to.

Since then, the vandalism has obviously gotten worse.
Your way of getting away with it in the previous thread is also very strange.
It's your usual MO to troll with scripts when things get bad.

Report vandalism (landfills, multi-posting, thread abuse, etc.) ★63
https://agree.5ch.net/test/read.cgi/sec2chd/1688657391/357
357 Name: The Third Man's Daughter ★[] Date: Wed, 2023/07/12 21:54:26.95 ID:CAP_USER
RONIN (RONIN) Report of vandalism of Ronin use ★32
https://agree.5ch.net/test/read.cgi/sec2chd/1681050517/677
677：Daughter of the third man ★：2023/07/12(Wed) 21:55:54.12 ID:CAP_USER
Regarding the report of vandalism caused by the use of Ronin

In view of the current situation, we will be taking a break for a while.
We will let you know when we reopen.
We will respond to reports from deletion staff and guides as appropriate.

We apologize for any inconvenience caused.

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