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1どんぐりキャノン ★
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2024/03/24(日) 02:23:07.61ID:CAP_USER
こんにちは、ドングリシステムチームです。
私はドングリキャノンです、RX77ガンキャノンと間違えないでください。
ドングリシステムについて話しましょう。
お分かりの通り、私は日本語があまり上手ではありませんので、優しくしてください。
2024/03/31(日) 13:21:49.79ID:5iYqMS6F0
I EAT SHIT 🤥💩クチャクチャ
2024/03/31(日) 13:23:02.96ID:uoi521U20
クオリティねえ
運営側と利用者側の意思疎通ができてないことが一番の問題では??
スクリプト攻撃にしたって対策しようとしてるのかしてないのかすら分からないんだから
50ななしさん
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2024/03/31(日) 13:24:09.69ID:Z4bEPb3F0
>>40
The primary issue we're currently facing is the script posting attack.
Why not consider implementing the CloudFlare Authentication system to prevent it like 5ch compatible boards like エッヂ?

エッヂ
http://bbs.eddibb.cc/liveedge/
2024/03/31(日) 13:24:12.07ID:IirkEQi80
>>45
The situation is different now.
We urge you to reconsider,please.
2024/03/31(日) 13:24:25.26ID:hcfUYhDk0
DeepL で翻訳すれば十分伝わるな
https://www.deepl.com/translator-mobile
53ななしさん
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2024/03/31(日) 13:24:48.48ID:JGK7p0zD0
no one wants to pay for 5ch so this system will fail.
2024/03/31(日) 13:24:57.86ID:uoi521U20
>>45
ダメなの??
2024/03/31(日) 13:25:10.63ID:hcfUYhDk0
>>50
I think so.
56どんぐりキャノン ★
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2024/03/31(日) 13:25:28.18ID:CAP_USER
>>35
There is no exchange (yet), but we are open to discussing that.

>>36
According to the current build plan, Donguri will become a meta-game that can be played while enjoying browsing 5chan.
Someday soon you will be able to type `!acorn` in the name field, and it will display your donguri rank when you make a post.
2024/03/31(日) 13:27:43.64ID:uoi521U20
状況が違うってなんだ…
山下のことか
reCAPTCHAを使わない理由になるのかそれ
58ななしさん
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2024/03/31(日) 13:27:59.78ID:Z4bEPb3F0
>>45
Use Turnstile by CloudFlare instead. It's cutting-edge and much easier to use than the old ReCaptcha. Once you authenticate in the first post, you won't need to do it again.

https://www.cloudflare.com/products/turnstile/
59ななしさん
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2024/03/31(日) 13:28:31.36ID:JGK7p0zD0
we have many alternative free boards with strong servers and script prevention system.
again, no one pay for uplift.
60どんぐりキャノン ★
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2024/03/31(日) 13:29:08.70ID:CAP_USER
>>47
Thank you.
61ななしさん
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2024/03/31(日) 13:29:42.83ID:IIoMhxIqa
何このスレ
2024/03/31(日) 13:30:39.99ID:niSviNEhM
>>45
I think most of the current trolls will disappear by adding recaptcha.
Even if it's just a trial, please try adding authentication when writing.
2024/03/31(日) 13:30:56.43ID:XV5hSbvh0
>>47
質も何もスクリプトなんとかしろ意外の問題は些細なことやろ
スクリプトなんとかしろ
64どんぐりキャノン ★
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2024/03/31(日) 13:31:05.80ID:CAP_USER
>>49 >>50
Consider this a management thread then, until my friend comes to discuss donguri.
2024/03/31(日) 13:31:20.02ID:Rs+dPtBl0
5ch → お金を払って浪人になればハンターとしてスクリプトと戦えます

賢いBBS → 無料でスクリプトのいない快適な空間を用意します


🤔
66ななしさん
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2024/03/31(日) 13:31:36.76ID:OPIrZLxP0
どういう意味や?
2024/03/31(日) 13:31:50.74ID:ZZKIhe5i0
こんなことしてないでスクリプト対策しろ
2024/03/31(日) 13:32:09.51ID:uoi521U20
ガンキャノンについて語るスレ
69ななしさん
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2024/03/31(日) 13:32:10.24ID:ttfpMR3P0
>>38
なんで🥺
2024/03/31(日) 13:33:10.51ID:tfHI7BV70
スクリプトなんとかしろよカス
2024/03/31(日) 13:34:14.14ID:cXbwjsdB0
個人運営の掲示板にボロ負けしてるゴミ
2024/03/31(日) 13:34:36.58ID:cR761UEn0
でも5ちゃんねるには""歴史""があるから
73ななしさん
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2024/03/31(日) 13:35:05.82ID:juW2Texq0
塩田くんのほうが頭よさそう
2024/03/31(日) 13:35:05.91ID:hcfUYhDk0
>>60
You're welcome.
Your English is easy to translate, so using DeepL will get through to the Japanese.
Many Japanese are not good at English.
75ななしさん
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2024/03/31(日) 13:35:49.71ID:Z4bEPb3F0
>>56
I believe it's not a time for the shit right now. The situation is way more serious than you may think. Numerous users have already abandoned 5ch due to the script posting attack. I estimate that half of the posts on 5ch are made by scripts, making it impossible for users to communicate each other.

Please consider implementing Turnstile by CloudFlare. Some 5ch-compatible boards like エッヂ、嫌儲オルグ、ぷにぷに have already proven its effectiveness, and users would welcome its implementation.
76ななしさん
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2024/03/31(日) 13:37:42.08ID:Z4bEPb3F0
>>62
Turnstile is better than ReCaptcha.

https://www.cloudflare.com/products/turnstile/
77ななしさん
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2024/03/31(日) 13:38:37.08ID:lgf+gCk3d
You should implement Captcha in the be.5ch.net registration form or set up a managed challenge with Cloudflare WAF for the entire be.5ch.net. Then you can easily ban bots by simply setting "BBS_BE_ID=1" on a board that is being indiscriminately trolled by bots.
However, in order to prevent confusion among users, the BBS must be notified when setting it.
It is most easy way.
2024/03/31(日) 13:40:09.90ID:ApFmQAbD0
こいつが荒らしだろ
2024/03/31(日) 13:40:36.57ID:dRpJBJNJ0
一度captcha入れたのに連投規制入れてなかったから認証通したクッキーで爆撃されて結局captcha切って
その後今度は逆に連投規制だけ入れてIPコロコロで埋め立てられてたバカ運営にTurnstile入れろって言っても同じことになるだけだよ
80ななしさん
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2024/03/31(日) 13:40:58.02ID:Z4bEPb3F0
>>67
>>70
たぶん日本語わからないからスクリプトが来てることすら分かってないんだと思うわ
運営はスクリプトと人の区別がついてない
2024/03/31(日) 13:41:51.75ID:hcfUYhDk0
>>80
多分そう
みんなで説明した方が良い
2024/03/31(日) 13:42:13.38ID:thdGB+Zt0
UPLIFT入ってるけど面倒だから使わんな
2024/03/31(日) 13:42:21.69ID:wJ23Vyr7H
>>2
画面の1番下の表示がこうなってます
>ドングリシステムチム |5ちゃんえる

「5ちゃんえる」ってなに
84どんぐりキャノン ★
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2024/03/31(日) 13:42:25.03ID:CAP_USER
I will look closely at Turnstile, but I don't think it can be effective for us because bots can generally already beat captcha.
Maybe I can make the DONGURI system work to beat bots, and of course that would not require UPLIFT.
85ななしさん
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2024/03/31(日) 13:44:59.41ID:OH0zyzFuH
>>82
How could it be made easier to use?
2024/03/31(日) 13:45:14.46ID:hcfUYhDk0
>>84
It works for the current bots. It will certainly lose in the future.
2024/03/31(日) 13:45:46.50ID:pqmXqIT80
そもそもシステムがわからんことにはどうにも
2024/03/31(日) 13:45:48.67ID:8mbO521fH
>>1
I cannnot login to "Hunter account".
The error message is "Login UPLIFT first."
But there are no UPLIFT login box but BE login box.
What can I do ?
89どんぐりキャノン ★
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2024/03/31(日) 13:46:08.89ID:CAP_USER
>>83
I will fix that now.
2024/03/31(日) 13:46:58.21ID:uoi521U20
ドングリキャノン推しなのはわかった
とりあえず日本語ができるお友達が来ないことには話が進まなそうね
2024/03/31(日) 13:48:00.74ID:hcfUYhDk0
>>87
「何に困っているか」を伝えるところからだと思うよ
あとは余所を参考にやれることならやってもらえる可能性ある
92ななしさん
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2024/03/31(日) 13:48:30.00ID:JGK7p0zD0
>>84

the presen bot guy is just a big head scriptkiddie so he cannot beat captcha.
2024/03/31(日) 13:49:20.39ID:EpAZT0uxH
>>89
OK, I wait and will try later..
I appreciate your efforts to ban bots as one of 5chan users.
94ななしさん
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2024/03/31(日) 13:49:23.57ID:lgf+gCk3d
Currently, indiscriminate trolling by bots is becoming more serious on 5ch. They post tons of fake comments and offensive images, worse than spam comments on X (Twitter). User comments are filled with comments and offensive images by bots. Bots switch IP addresses and UserAgent indiscriminately, so normal ban cannot cope with them. 50,>>75,>>77 captcha must be introduced, or every forum will be filled with bots and the number of users will decrease. The freedom of speech of Japanese people is threatened. Please take action.
2024/03/31(日) 13:49:34.16ID:lScnlfknM
>>47
今更こんな事言ってるのか…
日本語わからないやつは5ちゃんねるに関わるな
2024/03/31(日) 13:50:11.99ID:hcfUYhDk0
>>92
I do think so for now.
2024/03/31(日) 13:50:50.72ID:tfHI7BV70
>>80
地獄で草
2024/03/31(日) 13:51:12.91ID:niSviNEhM
Even if it is effective against scripted trolls, are there any measures to prevent other trolls from being hunted for replies that are disadvantageous to them?
If there is no management that allows us to judge, we will not know which is right.
2024/03/31(日) 13:52:22.87ID:lScnlfknM
>>80
やっぱり広告会社に報告したほうが効くんじゃねーの
契約切られて金が減っていったら流石にバカ運営も理解するだろ
100ななしさん
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2024/03/31(日) 13:54:05.60ID:Z4bEPb3F0
>>84
> I don't think it can be effective for us because bots can generally already beat captcha.

I haven't heard of cases whee bots defeated Turnstile.
Bots operate using a botnet, and their IP and cookies change with each post, necessitating them to complete the authentication process every time they post. This would make it impossible for them to post rapidly.
101どんぐりキャノン ★
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2024/03/31(日) 13:54:21.94ID:CAP_USER
>>83
I fixed it. Sorry, I sometimes can't see very well because I have glaucoma.

>>87
I understand. My friend will explain it better when he gets here.

>>88
For now, can you try to login here?
https://uplift.5ch.net
I will add an easy login box for https://donguri.5ch.net tomorrow.
2024/03/31(日) 13:55:11.21ID:dRpJBJNJ0
>>99
5chの広告代理店って札幌の中尾の関連会社だろ
意味のない行動だよ
2024/03/31(日) 13:56:34.63ID:niSviNEhM
Being reported simply because of an opinion you don't like,
There is also a way for contractors commissioned from elsewhere to use this mechanism to crush specific opinions.
104ななしさん
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2024/03/31(日) 13:57:11.35ID:lgf+gCk3d
垢版てw
垢BANのことか?
105ななしさん
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2024/03/31(日) 13:58:15.60ID:JGK7p0zD0
>>101
btw who is yoru friend?
106ななしさん
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2024/03/31(日) 14:00:21.64ID:p5vjzafv0
ハンターアカウントにログインできないよ
NG1008ってエラーが出る
107どんぐりキャノン ★
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2024/03/31(日) 14:00:27.10ID:CAP_USER
>>105
His CAP is どんぐり28号
2024/03/31(日) 14:01:26.97ID:Lb1UrzHV0
My favorite is Gundam double-X.

now, 5ch is filled with random generated text, known as "word salad".

5ちゃんねるは「ワードサラダ」として知られているランダムに作られたテキストで埋まっている
とか書いてみるテスト
2024/03/31(日) 14:01:36.22ID:ApFmQAbD0
マジで日本語できねえの?
辞めちまえこの仕事
110どんぐりキャノン ★
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2024/03/31(日) 14:01:57.71ID:CAP_USER
>>106
Please clear your cookies, then try again.
NG1008 means it cannot understand your cookie.
2024/03/31(日) 14:02:55.12ID:hcfUYhDk0
>>108
with URL to the grotesque image...
112ななしさん
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2024/03/31(日) 14:04:23.00ID:vGeikwGjx
FUCK YOU
113どんぐりキャノン ★
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2024/03/31(日) 14:06:37.65ID:CAP_USER
>>108
MG Double X is a fun build.

>>109
I can understand well enough, but english is easier for me to express myself with.
I like to order にぎり when I go to a sushi restaurant.
114ななしさん
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2024/03/31(日) 14:07:07.68ID:FNXuBuJp0
>>107
Are you kidding us?
115どんぐりキャノン ★
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2024/03/31(日) 14:08:13.88ID:CAP_USER
>>114
No, I am not kidding. Do you know him?
116ななしさん
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2024/03/31(日) 14:10:10.07ID:p5vjzafv0
>>110
iPhone使ってるんだけど、サファリの設定から履歴とWeb サイトデータを消去をやっても無理だった
2024/03/31(日) 14:10:29.39ID:EpAZT0uxH
>>101
I am >>83 and >>88
Now it's fixed.

In addition I think this phrase "ドングリシステムチム" would be "ドングリシステムチーム" in appropriate Japanese.
Anyway it would be better to confirm it from your Japanese friends.

And about hunter account I will try after announcement issued.

Thank you very much and take care of your eye.
2024/03/31(日) 14:11:07.24ID:bsM/y99eM
>>45
10年前とは状況が違っています
ここまで荒らされたなら、みんなreCAPTCHA導入に同意するでしょう
再検討をお願いします
119ななしさん
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2024/03/31(日) 14:12:41.22ID:L2nFdvOT0
絶対英語が母国語じゃなくて草
120どんぐりキャノン ★
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2024/03/31(日) 14:13:04.35ID:CAP_USER
>>116
Iphone is not supported (but still might work) at the moment because the code is not integrated with itest yet.
I think that you will need to try and use the desktop versions for it to work.
In a few days everything will make more sense.
2024/03/31(日) 14:14:18.25ID:hcfUYhDk0
>>118
>>45
Things are different than they were 10 years ago.
If it's been trolled this much, I'm sure everyone would agree that reCAPTCHA should be introduced.
Please reconsider!
122ななしさん
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2024/03/31(日) 14:14:21.80ID:jKYxVHQ40
Are you aware of the rampant trolls on 5ch? Please check the statistics on the number of posts on 5ch.
A certain percentage of the posts are made by script trolls. Urgent action is needed to eliminate these trolls.
123どんぐりキャノン ★
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2024/03/31(日) 14:16:07.98ID:CAP_USER
>>119
Im a native english speaker. Are you a native japanese speaker?
124どんぐりキャノン ★
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2024/03/31(日) 14:16:42.76ID:CAP_USER
I will find a solution for the trolls.
125ななしさん
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2024/03/31(日) 14:17:51.43ID:p5vjzafv0
>>120
サファリがダメだったから今度は、iPhoneのアプリのChromeブラウザでクッキー削除してもNG1008っていうエラー出たよ
2024/03/31(日) 14:18:03.63ID:VNOGARhL0
The acorn cannon between my legs is about to fire.
2024/03/31(日) 14:18:39.53ID:tfHI7BV70
abe shinzo
2024/03/31(日) 14:19:20.22ID:hcfUYhDk0
>>124
Thank you.
But there are too many bots posting to be in a position to find the usual forum trolls.
129どんぐりキャノン ★
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2024/03/31(日) 14:22:36.03ID:CAP_USER
>>125
Very strange. Does uplift work for you when you use the website?
I just tried with my iphone, and it worked for me.
I want to fix that for you. I will try to identify the bug.
130どんぐりキャノン ★
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2024/03/31(日) 14:24:18.72ID:CAP_USER
>>128
You're welcome. I think I will find a good solution.
Please give me a few days to prepare.
2024/03/31(日) 14:25:07.76ID:NwBTcQTW0
>>1
ガイジwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww










死ね白豚😂
132どんぐりキャノン ★
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2024/03/31(日) 14:25:28.02ID:CAP_USER
Did you guys receive any seeds from donguri yet?
2024/03/31(日) 14:25:31.90ID:pqmXqIT80
システムわからんので推測大盛りだけど
トップページhttps://donguri.5ch.net/にアクセスすると
「再認証」のリンクをクリックした事と
同等に見なされている気がする
2024/03/31(日) 14:25:52.39ID:12Q/P4s50
It's all an April Fool's joke, right?
135どんぐりキャノン ★
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2024/03/31(日) 14:26:15.52ID:CAP_USER
>>131
Im not white. 😂
2024/03/31(日) 14:26:19.04ID:Qaugdb1h0
https://i.imgur.com/hTABNca.jpg
2024/03/31(日) 14:26:27.65ID:12Q/P4s50
>>132
It's all an April Fool's joke, right?
2024/03/31(日) 14:27:14.93ID:ZNA5ZCoE0
Just ask Q anon's master how it felt when Hiroyuki became the administrator of 4chan when he thought he had won a complete victory by taking 5channels away from Hiroyuki.
2024/03/31(日) 14:27:17.96ID:4PuHE54s0
>>132
garbage😂

Yoi die😎
2024/03/31(日) 14:28:06.03ID:g3GpXM/20
安倍晋三
2024/03/31(日) 14:29:34.14ID:hcfUYhDk0
>>130
I look forward to it.
Thank you!
2024/03/31(日) 14:30:01.46ID:bfGf53GK0
excuse me
143どんぐりキャノン ★
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2024/03/31(日) 14:30:14.46ID:CAP_USER
>>133
The 「再認証」 doesn't show a success message, but it is definitely doing strong work in the background.
My friend どんぐり28号 told me that the DONGURI SYSTEM project is similar to teppanyaki.
Together we will nurture the project and it will grow into a very useful system.
Just like a master chef putting meat on a teppanyaki grill. You wouldn't eat his meal raw, would you?
The meat should take some time to cook.

>>134
No, but the timing is good.
2024/03/31(日) 14:30:27.88ID:d6CFASbk0
ガンキャノン壊れちゃった…
2024/03/31(日) 14:32:25.98ID:7HJG8JI80
Please kick out the script trolls
It is out of control and it is destroying 5ch very fast
How would you feel if there is a photo of dead corpse and random junk conversation unrelated to the thread posted everywhere?
As a paid uplift user, I should have a right to demand management to address and fix the issue ASAP
I understand it will be a tiresome effort but please understand current urgent situation
Thank you
146どんぐりキャノン ★
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2024/03/31(日) 14:33:35.30ID:CAP_USER
>>145
We will fix this issue together.
2024/03/31(日) 14:34:32.94ID:YhZVLQ400
Display of local rules on the board
Creation of a discussion board to discuss the organization of the board list
If you can implement these, I'd be happy to do it.
The categories are too old and not up to date.
For example, there are no boards or threads for discussing distribution anime, so 5ch is losing money in terms of advertising revenue if the categories remain outdated.
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