!chkBBx: 確認専用スレ part155
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本文1行目(レスアンカーなどより上)に1字目から
!chkBBx:UA
と入力して(コピペを推奨、困難なら >>2 あたり を参照)
書きこめば、書けない理由に関する何かが判るかも
【原因を調べたいならこちらへ】
このホストはBB*規制中です。の早見表
http://info.5ch.net/?curid=2630
【よくわからなくて困ったらこちらへ】 >>5 あたり
テンプレは随時、追加変更してください
現在は >>1-14 あたり
前スレ
!chkBBx: 確認専用スレ part154
http://kes.5ch.net/test/read.cgi/operatex/1705376679/ てすてす
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テンプレ貼れないから不便なんだよ
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ダメな言葉が含まれてるのか
巻き込まれて規制なのか
そういう具体的な所が分からないと不便で仕方ない
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名無しですの後の(5級)とか(7級)とか(初段)とかは
どういう意味があんの?
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まんこー
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QUERY:[249.124.207.251] (ワッチョイ) 0fbb-tTIK
HOST NAME: 2001:240:2428:a61e:0:5:1fd8:1201
IP: 249.124.207.251
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User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Linux; Android 10; K) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/123.0.0.0 Mobile Safari/537.36 どれどれ
Region: [JP]
QUERY:[49.96.33.3] (スッップ) Sdbf-a5VY
HOST NAME: sp49-96-33-3.msd.spmode.ne.jp.
IP: 49.96.33.3
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Burned BBQ (Proxy60) Registered:20240314-123515
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User-Agent: Monazilla/1.00 twinkle/11.9 iOS17.4.1
Region: [JP]
QUERY:[133.106.49.42] (JP) 0Hfe-Ky5X
HOST NAME: None
IP: 133.106.49.42
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User-Agent: Monazilla/1.00 (JaneXeno/230826)
Region: [JP]
QUERY:[101.2.152.86] (ワッチョイ) e204-EVNn
HOST NAME: 101.2.152.86.user.e-catv.ne.jp.
IP: 101.2.152.86
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Burned BBQ (Proxy60) Registered:20240331-030050
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User-Agent: Monazilla/1.00 2chMate/0.8.10.153 Dalvik/2.1.0 (Linux; U; Android 9; X1 Build/S2029)
Region: [JP]
QUERY:[254.170.230.195] (ワッチョイ) b79b-62GD
HOST NAME: 2001:268:c05e:cc17:fdc5:2d29:dfff:bc85
IP: 254.170.230.195
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User-Agent: Monazilla/1.00 mae2c/7.1.7 iOS17.2.9 iPhone12,8
Region: [JP]
QUERY:[121.87.168.138] (ワッチョイ) 7635-MjEX
HOST NAME: 121-87-168-138f1.osk2.eonet.ne.jp.
IP: 121.87.168.138
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User-Agent: Monazilla/1.00 JD
Region: [JP]
QUERY:[175.177.41.144] (ワッチョイ) fe5e-4A+0
HOST NAME: h175-177-041-144.catv02.itscom.jp.
IP: 175.177.41.144
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User-Agent: Monazilla/1.00 twinkle/11.9 iOS16.4.1
Region: [JP]
QUERY:[106.73.10.33] (ワッチョイ) 03e4-AFRq
HOST NAME: M106073010033.v4.enabler.ne.jp.
IP: 106.73.10.33
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Burned BBQ (Proxy60) Registered:20240401-210916
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User-Agent: Monazilla/1.00 2chMate/0.8.10.182 Dalvik/2.1.0 (Linux; U; Android 14; SO-53D Build/67.1.B.2.154)
Region: [JP]
QUERY:[150.66.90.92] (オイコラミネオ) MM5f-Mrnq
HOST NAME: 150-66-90-92m5.mineo.jp.
IP: 150.66.90.92
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Burned BBQ (Proxy60) Registered:20240402-022158
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User-Agent: Monazilla/1.00 2chMate/0.8.10.182 Dalvik/2.1.0 (Linux; U; Android 10; moto e(7) Build/QOGS30.569-36-31)
Region: [JP]
QUERY:[138.64.87.55] (ワッチョイ) 6370-OINQ
HOST NAME: ai087055.d.east.v6connect.net.
IP: 138.64.87.55
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Burned BBQ (Proxy60) Registered:20240331-234454
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User-Agent: Monazilla/1.00 (JaneXeno/230722)
Region: [JP]
QUERY:[106.73.10.33] (ワッチョイ) 03e4-AFRq
HOST NAME: M106073010033.v4.enabler.ne.jp.
IP: 106.73.10.33
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Burned BBQ (Proxy60) Registered:20240401-210916
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User-Agent: Monazilla/1.00 2chMate/0.8.10.182 Dalvik/2.1.0 (Linux; U; Android 14; SO-53D Build/67.1.B.2.154)
Region: [JP]
QUERY:[14.13.16.225] (ワッチョイ) 27e4-MPgx
HOST NAME: M014013016225.v4.enabler.ne.jp.
IP: 14.13.16.225
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Burned BBQ (Proxy60) Registered:20240325-191604
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User-Agent: Monazilla/1.00 2chMate/0.8.10.182 Dalvik/2.1.0 (Linux; U; Android 14; SH-51D Build/SC416)
Region: [JP]
QUERY:[150.66.67.224] (オイコラミネオ) MM5f-Mrnq
HOST NAME: 150-66-67-224m5.mineo.jp.
IP: 150.66.67.224
-- Results
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User-Agent: Monazilla/1.00 2chMate/0.8.10.182 Dalvik/2.1.0 (Linux; U; Android 10; moto e(7) Build/QOGS30.569-36-31)
Region: [JP]
QUERY:[36.11.224.38] (アウアウクー) MMd7-ykw9
HOST NAME: UQ036011224038.au-net.ne.jp.
IP: 36.11.224.38
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User-Agent: Monazilla/1.00 twinkle/11.9 iOS17.3.1
Region: [JP]
QUERY:[27.85.204.142] (アウアウアー) Sa8e-ykw9
HOST NAME: KD027085204142.au-net.ne.jp.
IP: 27.85.204.142
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User-Agent: Monazilla/1.00 twinkle/11.9 iOS17.3.1
Region: [JP]
QUERY:[27.85.204.142] (アウアウアー) Sa8e-62GD
HOST NAME: KD027085204142.au-net.ne.jp.
IP: 27.85.204.142
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User-Agent: Monazilla/1.00 mae2c/7.1.7 iOS17.2.9 iPhone12,8 こうか?
Region: [JP]
QUERY:[218.225.237.111] (アメ) MM63-ByQo
HOST NAME: 111.237.225.218.ap.mvno.net.
IP: 218.225.237.111
-- Results
Burned BBQ (Proxy60) Registered:20240402-022158
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User-Agent: Monazilla/1.00 LazerBeam/4.23 Windows/6.1.7600 ぐぐったらこういうの出てきた
>proxy60は「宣伝、NGワードの投稿、または荒らし行為 」だそうです
>レスしたとき連投とかしまくったり、NGに触れてしまったのでは?
>なお他人とドメインまとめて規制じゃなく、ピンポイントであなたのIP規制していますので、何をしたのかわかりませんが規制されました
いよいよおれも犯罪人扱いか
>IP変えれば書き込めそうなので、ルータとか電源消せるなら全部電源切って下さい。
>IP変わるかと
>日付かわればIP変わると思うので明日まで待つとかも
しかしもう数日続いてるんだよなあ >>887
最後にどこに書き込んだよ?
板によってはかなり理不尽な判定されるぞ
Region: [JP]
QUERY:[37.19.205.203] (ワッチョイ) 6288-rsQH
HOST NAME: unn-37-19-205-203.datapacket.com.
IP: 37.19.205.203
-- Results
Burned BBQ (Proxy20) Registered:20240227-221200
Burned BBQ (Proxy60) Registered:20240407-095908
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>>889
覚えてないがニュー速+か危ない海外板のスレだ、他にもまれに投稿はするからそっちかも
NGのURLにはよく引っかかっていた、投稿したはずがされてないってのも時々あった
しかしおれ個人じゃないと思うぞ
IP変えてやってもだめだし、おれモバイルルーター使ってるからそのSIMを変えて
番号部分は変えたがap.mvno.netの部分は変わらないからなのかだめだった
Region: [JP]
QUERY:[247.1.171.161] (ワッチョイ) 3e9d-ykw9
HOST NAME: 2001:268:c0a1:39a2:6512:53bf:9fa1:d27a
IP: 247.1.171.161
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User-Agent: Monazilla/1.00 twinkle/11.9 iOS17.3.1 書き込めた
chrome問題なし
Twinkle「あなたはこのスレッドにはもう書けません」🐙エラー
Twinkleキャッシュ削除でエラー解消
よくわからんけど参考になれば janeを他の専ブラに変えてみるか
しかしChromeでもだめなんだよなあ
ここも他のブラウザを試してみるか
最後はSIMのプロバイダーを変えてみるわ ■ このスレッドは過去ログ倉庫に格納されています